Are these cars actually reliable?

[lilDumpsterRat]

I'm biased, 2025., car has 6k miles and dealer cant fix a fuel cut issue that keeps popping up. The more I dig, I see many people have a variety of issues. I also notice that it overheats on the track for a lot of people..

The car does seem sensitive and will lock down into limp mode fast, but still , I dont think this Honda reliability is really true with the FL5 type r... seems like the engineers reach out distanced what they could grasp with manufacturing standards.

Going into limp mode on the freeway drops you from 80 mph to 30 mph in a few seconds, as i scuttle with my tail bw my legs over to the slow lane. This is dangerous and im sick of it. its happened after 4 times to the dealer now even after replacing hpfp and updates and what not.

What is your guys consensus?

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[blueroadster]

Going into limp mode on the freeway drops you from 80 mph to 30 mph in a few seconds???

 

[AZCWTypeR]

Very unusual. Make your dealer is in touch with Honda USA's service tech support.

Review your state's lemon laws. I only recommend this as last resort as dealers tend to "lawyer up" when mentioned. However, I know folks who threatened lemon law and got what they wanted. Dealer became very upset about it, but car was fixed.

Also report your issue to NTHSA, since it is definitely a safety hazard.

 

[lilDumpsterRat]

Going into limp mode on the freeway drops you from 80 mph to 30 mph in a few seconds???

well sorta. if youre going say 75 ,when it kicks in your limited to about 2200 rpm, but no boost at all. but somehow at first its very hard to get any throttle, so youll drop to almost 25., but if you start at 25 once in limp mode, you can crawl slowly thru the gears up to about 60 mph

 

[Rhorn]

Way more reliable than my Mustang and BRZ I just bought

 

[chopsuey34]

Here's the Consumer Reports reliability history for the 11th and 10th gen Civics.

 

[blackert]

Way more reliable than my Mustang and BRZ I just bought

that’s the truth. two 20 min sessions in my 18k mile BRZ and the thing was pissing oil from a leak in the cam position sensor seal and cam carrier. required motor out repairs. covered under warranty obviously but such a buzzkill

 

[qingcong]

Well overheating on the track isn't really a reliability issue. A classic "reliable" 2007 Civic will overheat too if you push it too hard on the track. I could see the argument that the turbo DI engine isn't as bulletproof as a port injected NA K20 or K24, or that all the extra electronic nonsense means there's more stuff to break. But I don't see any evidence for any of that to be true. There's always some lemons, sounds like you may have one or your dealer technician sucks.

 

[ABPDE5]

Well overheating on the track isn't really a reliability issue. A classic "reliable" 2007 Civic will overheat too if you push it too hard on the track. I could see the argument that the turbo DI engine isn't as bulletproof as a port injected NA K20 or K24, or that all the extra electronic nonsense means there's more stuff to break. But I don't see any evidence for any of that to be true. There's always some lemons, sounds like you may have one or your dealer technician sucks.

Agreed. I'd say the NA, port-injected Civic Sport is probably the most reliable Honda on sale right now, but I would take the FL5/DE5 after that.
It sounds like OP got a lemon (and/or perhaps dealership did a poor job attempting to resolve issues).

 

[Blindeye_03]

Sounds like a throttle sensor issue but could be anything . I had a similar issue with a TSX a long time ago.

 

[Rhorn]

that’s the truth. two 20 min sessions in my 18k mile BRZ and the thing was pissing oil from a leak in the cam position sensor seal and cam carrier. required motor out repairs. covered under warranty obviously but such a buzzkill

Tell me about it, literally drove mine off the lot (its used but had 40k miles) and not even a mile before it looked like I was cooking BBQ under the hood lol. 0 issues suth the test drive so it was so confusing and makes ne feel like I got scammed. So many oil leaks with the engine because of Subarus shitty sealants. I think its still leaking/weeping some oil by the oil pump.

Already been back to the dealership like 3 times already for oil leaking. At this point Im just going to take it to the track and hope the engine blows up So frustrating going back and forth with the dealership, I did it with my Mustang for the first 3 years of ownership.

 

[Cueyo]

Tell me about it, literally drove mine off the lot (its used but had 40k miles) and not even a mile before it looked like I was cooking BBQ under the hood lol. 0 issues suth the test drive so it was so confusing and makes ne feel like I got scammed. So many oil leaks with the engine because of Subarus shitty sealants. I think its still leaking/weeping some oil by the oil pump.

Already been back to the dealership like 3 times already for oil leaking. At this point Im just going to take it to the track and hope the engine blows up So frustrating going back and forth with the dealership, I did it with my Mustang for the first 3 years of ownership.

I'd heard bad things about Subarus sealant what with all the jokes about blown head gaskets, but it's almost like EVERY Subaru I hear about blows up or has oil leak issues. Its amazing there haven't been more lawsuits, especially when the gr86 uses the same platform.

If I were you I'd cut my losses and just get an s2000

 

[Rhorn]

I'd heard bad things about Subarus sealant what with all the jokes about blown head gaskets, but it's almost like EVERY Subaru I hear about blows up or has oil leak issues. Its amazing there haven't been more lawsuits, especially when the gr86 uses the same platform.

If I were you I'd cut my losses and just get an s2000

Yeah Subaru sucks lol, wouldn't recommend them.

S2000 doesn't have a telescoping steering wheel, its fixed in place so that would be a nogo for me, and its pretty pricey. I considered the Miata but it was too small for me. Once the warranty expires I'll look into getting a C5 or C6. I just wanted a cheap car that I can track regularly year round.

 

[TypeRD]

Very unusual. Make your dealer is in touch with Honda USA's service tech support.

Review your state's lemon laws. I only recommend this as last resort as dealers tend to "lawyer up" when mentioned. However, I know folks who threatened lemon law and got what they wanted. Dealer became very upset about it, but car was fixed.

Also report your issue to NTHSA, since it is definitely a safety hazard.

This! When you take your car to the dealership for a reoccurring problem (2nd time it happens) they are supposed to call the Honda tech line for the fix. If it happens a 3rd time (same code / same issue), they send out a Honda master technician.

 

[Mobias]

This! When you take your car to the dealership for a reoccurring problem (2nd time it happens) they are supposed to call the Honda tech line for the fix. If it happens a 3rd time (same code / same issue), they send out a Honda master technician.

I was a Honda Master Tech for 10 years and this was never the way it worked. Not sure where you got that information from.

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