Wagner Intercooler

[MSUGeoman]

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[Shrapnel]

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[Zpeedster M]

Where's the radiator??

This is how I ended up doing mine. Mounted the isolators and brackets on the intercooler with the lip tucked under the rim of the crash bar, marked a dot for each bracket location, drilled two holes through the crash bar lip, and secured the brackets with two stainless bolts with lock washers and nuts. Somewhat of a pain in the ass to get the bolts in the bottom of the holes but I used a short magnet on a stick to guide the bolts up from underneath and then dropped the lock washer on and threaded the locking nut. Overall pretty clean install and it’s very secure now. Sure wish this was a bit clearer with some instructions, the rest is pretty straightforward. I’ll run my Hondata and collect some logs on my drives for the rest of the week and send them over for comparison.

 

[ITSguy]

https://www.wagner-tuning.com/img/p...ion Instruction Honda Civic Fl5 Type R IC.pdf

 

[Bigfx]

Thank you to the pioneers on this intercooler hopefully the data comes back that this is a great intercooler

 

[PointByPatrol]

Everyone is entitled to their opinion here, but speaking from experience, and hopefully as a voice of reason, I'd like to submit my thoughts.

This intercooler appears to be a great application for someone that plans to drag race their car occasionally. It's a large bar and plate design, and will block needed airflow to the radiator. For short stents this won't be a problem at all, and this could very well be the goal for the gentleman that installed this on his car.

I do not see how an oil cooler could be fitted well with this intercooler installed. It does not appear that the HEL oil cooler, which unless I'm wrong, is currently our only option. The great news is that synthetic oil can get pretty darn hot, and still be okay, but I like the added peace of mind with having an oil cooler.

I overheated my FL5 at CMP with little more than a PRL intercooler installed. I'm beginning to think it likely wouldn't have happened, or at least not to the same degree had I been running with a factory intercooler. The PRL unit is also a bar and plate design.

For Auto X, Road Course/Track Duty:

I'll personally be shifting gears on my new FL5 and will not replace the factory intercooler until their is a good tube and fin design that doesn't cover the whole radiator. Tube and fin designs are track proven for improved airflow to the radiator, and better heat dissipation to the charged air moving through the intercooler. Hence, a win win.

Just my .02

 

[ABPDE5]

Everyone is entitled to their opinion here, but speaking from experience, and hopefully as a voice of reason, I'd like to submit my thoughts.

This intercooler appears to be a great application for someone that plans to drag race their car occasionally. It's a large bar and plate design, and will block needed airflow to the radiator. For short stents this won't be a problem at all, and this could very well be the goal for the gentleman that installed this on his car.

I do not see how an oil cooler could be fitted well with this intercooler installed. It does not appear that the HEL oil cooler, which unless I'm wrong, is currently our only option. The great news is that synthetic oil can get pretty darn hot, and still be okay, but I like the added peace of mind with having an oil cooler.

I overheated my FL5 at CMP with little more than a PRL intercooler installed. I'm beginning to think it likely wouldn't have happened, or at least not to the same degree had I been running with a factory intercooler. The PRL unit is also a bar and plate design.

For Auto X, Road Course/Track Duty:

I'll personally be shifting gears on my new FL5 and will not replace the factory intercooler until their is a good tube and fin design that doesn't cover the whole radiator. Tube and fin designs are track proven for improved airflow to the radiator, and better heat dissipation to the charged air moving through the intercooler. Hence, a win win.

Just my .02

I was told it was tube / fin. (Pics appear to show otherwise.)

Can anyone confirm?

 

[PointByPatrol]

I was told it was tube / fin.

Can anyone confirm?

Looks a heck of a lot like bar and plate based on the images.

 

[ABPDE5]

Looks a heck of a lot like bar and plate based on the images.

Yep, just went back and looked, and I agree. Very much bar / plate, lol.

 

[Two Step Performance]

I was told it was tube / fin. (Pics appear to show otherwise.)

Can anyone confirm?

Those interested in a quality and cost effective tube and fin design should keep an eye out for a new release from PWR. I'm sure it will be more than $890 but less than the JDM options out there.

 

[Zpeedster M]

I'm waiting for that one.

Those interested in a quality and cost effective tube and fin design should keep an eye out for a new release from PWR. I'm sure it will be more than $890 but less than the JDM options out there.

 

[ITSguy]

 

[Tickle]

I've done so much research on things I know and didn't know.

In the end... We are all simply looking for data to make educated decisions. I am thankful for the early adopters and await their feedback.

 

[Clark_Kent]

These guys were discussing bar and plate v. tube and fin late last year. The discussion starts at about 6:30 and testing follows.

 

[MSUGeoman]

Wagner competition series are tube and fin, which is the only current offering they have for the FL5. To point by patrol’s point, I don’t intend on using my car for heavy track use, it’s primarily a daily driver for me and canyon carver so I doubt I’ll ever see the cooling issues folks that track their cars will. That being said, I do have the CSF radiator as well and from my 1 hr drive today it does not appear that the coolant temps nor oil temps have suffered from the Wagner install. I’ll have datalogs to share after this week so we have some real world info for folks to make decisions based on.

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