Current best intercooler for track use?

[optronix]

No, I don't want to I've said my opinion I'm moving on. My car is stock, except for Hondata and flexfuel.

I respect the graceful exit lol.

Still looking though, this goes out to @here.

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[Cueyo]

Forgot to add this information about the data that I posted. This is also something to take into consideration.

I think that just makes their entire dataset null and void, worse ambient temperatures affect more than just the inlet and outlet temps on the intercooler. This is blatantly just bad testing. The product may very well be the best product on the market, but incorrect data is just that, incorrect.

 

[Cueyo]

No. That's a cop out. "Tuning shows this". I call bullshit. So far I've only seen/heard from people who "drive real hard"... but also are modified in at least one way, most often including an intercooler. I'm not saying there isn't evidence, I'm just saying I haven't seen any, and am asking for it. Go find me some actual evidence of "it heat soaks, timing is pulled, power is reduced" from a stock FL5 OR DE5, and I'll stand down.

Seriously, I track my DE5 mostly stock and want to know. I'm not being combative.

And not from an LLM. Lol.



This is actually great data, truthfully. To me, at least.

I'm paying attention to the inlet temps. It's fucking HIGHER for the aftermarket intercoolers!!! From just this data alone I can extract two pretty compelling hypotheses:

1) The delta is influenced by the higher inlet temp, thus implying higher efficiency
2) The inlet temperature is influenced by the HIGHER AMBIENT TEMPS IN THE ENGINE BAY, which if I were to guess, may in fact be CREATED BY THE INTERCOOLER.

Otherwise, data looks good that the outlet temps would be substantially cooler, leading to an overall increase in peak boost pressure. All this makes sense and is the expected outcome for what you'd expect an intercooler to actually accomplish, in lowering the temperature of the air going into the turbo. So for guys chasing big power, an intercooler is probably necessary.

But that's not what we're talking about here, we're specifically talking about overheating on track.

So if having an aftermarket intercooler (especially bar and plate...) results in higher ambient temps (reflected in the honestly pretty dramtically higher inlet temperatures), then I'm feeling pretty good about my theory that an intercooler ACTIVELY CONTRIBUTES TO OVERHEATING.

Somebody tell me I'm wrong! Seriously, I feel like I'm on my own here and I just don't understand why I'm the only one fighting this battle.

Bonus points- if you can tell me the source of this gif we will ACTUALLY become best friends.

To your point (and maybe against it), the aftermarket fmics may have worse inlet air temps purely because of the fact that they have a higher heat capacity. If it can hold more heat than stock, the ambient temps will go up, there's no way around it. That also means it can likely dissipate more heat than stock, which would go to show that just because the temperatures are higher, does not mean the same amount of work is being done to alleviate the overheating.

 

[simpleisbest]

To your point (and maybe against it), the aftermarket fmics may have worse inlet air temps purely because of the fact that they have a higher heat capacity. If it can hold more heat than stock, the ambient temps will go up, there's no way around it. That also means it can likely dissipate more heat than stock, which would go to show that just because the temperatures are higher, does not mean the same amount of work is being done to alleviate the overheating.

No. The larger IC means it has more mass which means it can absorb more energy before becoming ineffective at exchanging heat (heat soak). The temperature at peak heat soak is not related to mass. The design/material/etc of the IC will effect how well it exchanges that heat with a given air speed.

For a track car, the larger mass is kinda like having a longer fuse until heat soak/limp mode at the cost of weight/air restriction to radiator, etc. How quickly the fuse burns will depend on ambient temp, your tune (more boost = more heat), driving pace, and the efficiency of the IC design.

 

[blueroadster]

So in reality it you could be waiting 4-6 months before you get your part ?

I've never experienced issues like that from BHJ before.

 

[Rhorn]

You mean the "stock" IC that is V-mounted? I don't think that's a good comparison.

Fair enough

 

[blueroadster]

Ordered the J's Racing Hyper Intercooler on 11 February and was given a lead time of 1-2 months for manufacturing before shipment. Intercooler has since shipped.

 

[blueroadster]

Any updates on the RV6 T&F intercooler?

 

[Zpeedster M]

No adjustments needed

 

[blueroadster]

Received in less than 2 months after ordering:

 

[Zpeedster M]

Rec'd 3 weeks

 

[blueroadster]

Rec'd 3 weeks

Also a great intercooler.

 

[simpleisbest]

No adjustments needed

Interesting that they said removing the OEM Air Temp bracket was optional because just judging by the IC thickness it doesnt look like the OEM bracket would fit. Maybe they meant you can bend the OEM plastic bracket out of the way?

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