2023 Civic Type R FL5 - Reviews Compilation (Articles + Videos) ✍🏻 🎥

[Stick_shifter96]

This is like the equivalent of the bullshit embargos that video game publishers do where the game goes on sale but reviews are limited. Cyberpunk 2077 is the most recent one that did that

maybe we ARE in the Matrix

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[michaeljf]

I remember people saying the same problem with the FK8 LE. It seems like the suspension is a carryover from that which would explain why it acts similar

No doubt that's the case as it's a tried and tested way for this platform to rotate and be a bit more taily. However I suspect the extra wheelbase, tyre size and weight will moderate the effect compared to an LE so it should have better on road manners.

It also means the regular updated MY20+ FK8 Type R is the probably the pick as a pure daily driver, at the expense of outright track pace.

 

[TimeRacer]

Two different events, two different tracks. The throttle house video was in Texas. This is in California. They probably had different NDAs to sign

Was a big thing on TheSmokingTire's Twitter when the Canadian outlets released their first look reviews. Appears the in hand full review has been in the can for over a month waiting on embargoes.



Now with these Sonoma Raceway reviews the amount of bouncing in the cabin is unsettling for both handling and passengers. I've driven that track on numerous occasions, was no where near that bouncy even on 3x stiffer spring rates. This really seems like a problem with trying to use dampening instead of spring rate to control body roll so that 'Comfort' mode dampening is matched better to the spring rate.

 

[thecaper]

Raiti is posting a new Type R video tonight at 5:30 PM Eastern Time. Looks like he is reviewing a red one with all the options on it.

 

[UFO CTR]

looks like Dustin Williams were at Sonoma as well

 

[mbaapk]

looks like Dustin Williams were at Sonoma as well

I find them both incredibly annoying.

 

[ScumbagRob]

I find them both incredibly annoying.

Car sure is beautiful though. Think I am starting to lean towards RR instead of CW...

 

[daazn]

Car sure is beautiful though. Think I am starting to lean towards RR instead of CW...

That red is nice but I can't do red on red. Feels too much imo

 

[ScumbagRob]

That red is nice but I can't do red on red. Feels too much imo

I think the black floor mats help a lot. After watching the video, the red seats in red car didn't look as bad as I feared...

But red seats (and red R badge) in CW is definitely a sick combo.

 

[Cornercarver]

Hopefully more videos will be coming out soon. Including off track driving, and back to back comparisons with the FK8.

 

[daazn]

 

[savagegeese]

Now with these Sonoma Raceway reviews the amount of bouncing in the cabin is unsettling for both handling and passengers. I've driven that track on numerous occasions, was no where near that bouncy even on 3x stiffer spring rates. This really seems like a problem with trying to use dampening instead of spring rate to control body roll so that 'Comfort' mode dampening is matched better to the spring rate.

The spring rates are the same and sway bars. The bushing rates increased for the next generation of tires and chassis stiffness. The dampers are the same, but the range of adjustment is far more extreme. Comfort is softer and +R damping curve is far more aggressive. This is again for Cup2 and future tires that are more sticky. Most of tuning of dampers we're don't at Suzuka which is glass.

So while you have more overhead in future you will always be in Comfort mode on street and most bumpy tracks. Sport is very similar to +R. Chief Engineer wanted a hard core version. He did chassis development on AP1 and NSXR and wanted more of that.

 

[ILX6SPEED]

The spring rates are the same and sway bars. The bushing rates increased for the next generation of tires and chassis stiffness. The dampers are the same, but the range of adjustment is far more extreme. Comfort is softer and +R damping curve is far more aggressive. This is again for Cup2 and future tires that are more sticky. Most of tuning of dampers we're don't at Suzuka which is glass.

So while you have more overhead in future you will always be in Comfort mode on street and most bumpy tracks. Sport is very similar to +R. Chief Engineer wanted a hard core version. He did chassis development on AP1 and NSXR and wanted more of that.

Is this the real Goose? If so, love your stuff and great info thanks

 

[TypeR]

The spring rates are the same and sway bars. The bushing rates increased for the next generation of tires and chassis stiffness. The dampers are the same, but the range of adjustment is far more extreme. Comfort is softer and +R damping curve is far more aggressive. This is again for Cup2 and future tires that are more sticky. Most of tuning of dampers we're don't at Suzuka which is glass.

So while you have more overhead in future you will always be in Comfort mode on street and most bumpy tracks. Sport is very similar to +R. Chief Engineer wanted a hard core version. He did chassis development on AP1 and NSXR and wanted more of that.

Great info! Luckily they have individual mode now so you don’t have to have comfort steering/throttle response etc. to have a decent ride on the street. Love the channel been watching for years. Look forward to the FL5 content.

 

[TimeRacer]

The spring rates are the same and sway bars. The bushing rates increased for the next generation of tires and chassis stiffness. The dampers are the same, but the range of adjustment is far more extreme. Comfort is softer and +R damping curve is far more aggressive. This is again for Cup2 and future tires that are more sticky. Most of tuning of dampers we're don't at Suzuka which is glass.

So while you have more overhead in future you will always be in Comfort mode on street and most bumpy tracks. Sport is very similar to +R. Chief Engineer wanted a hard core version. He did chassis development on AP1 and NSXR and wanted more of that.

What I take away is that the +R mode is closer to the Limited Edition FK8 ride/handling than the standard FK8. Since I think all of the last 2 generation CTR's had no different equipment, just tuning differences. Numerous outlets said the LE had too steep of a dampening curve for most tracks unless it's a F1 track condition like Suzuka mentioned as Honda's home testing ground. Hopefully Throttle House's notation of unless you're in +R mode, you can't completely disable the traction control is user error then. As it seems for most track driving you're looking for individual mode with sport suspension setting but only if you can disable the traction control systems in individual mode. I'm sure we'll get to hear all about this once the embargoes are lifted in a few days. Thanks for all that you do!

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