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Its interesting, i feel drawn to the car, much like a golf R but for some reason could not see myself buying or driving one as a daily. Its like it hits on 90% of being the perfect ride but the Type R to me seems so much more refined and captures my heart. It’s like going on the best date of your life but going home after and saying “this just isn’t going to work, I know what i really want and as good as that was, it wasn’t it”.
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Its interesting, i feel drawn to the car, much like a golf R but for some reason could not see myself buying or driving one as a daily. Its like it hits on 90% of being the perfect ride but the Type R to me seems so much more refined and captures my heart. It’s like going on the best date of your life but going home after and saying “this just isn’t going to work, I know what i really want and as good as that was, it wasn’t it”.
Thats actually the perfect analogy :headbang:
and a Civic Type-R is still a Civic to the public much like a GR Corolla.
Hopefully the wing and the wide wheel arches are enough to set it apart ?
 

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Personally I've got a deposit for both. I'd prefer the CTR because I'm a long time Honda fan, exterior looks better and interior for the new civic is borderline luxury. That being said I also expect the new CTR to be more expensive than the GRC, by how much is essentially what will make or break my choice.

GRC is a great competitor though. You got AWD, 2 LSDs, 300HP from a tiny 1.6L 3 cyclinder (for anyone who pays vehicle registration or other fees based on motor size this is hilariously great), relatively light weight for an AWD car (I think ~125lbs more than the FK8 CTR?), practicality of a hatchback, Toyota reliability, etc.

Can't wait to see the comparisons, and honestly sounds like you can't go wrong with either choice.
 


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The great thing about the Corolla GR and the Type R is that if you have one, it will be more exciting than 90% of cars on the road. I also have a feeling that the Corolla GR will hold its value just as well as the Type R.
I hope so. And I mean I REALLLY hope so because than that would mean they would have similar production numbers. If the rumors are true, the Type R is going to be so much scarcer than the GR Corolla. 🤞 No jinx
 

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A GRC parked next to our FK8 would be my ideal....had to go with an Corolla XSE HB due to the fact it was available the little lady doesn't and won't drive a manual.
 

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A GRC parked next to our FK8 would be my ideal....had to go with an Corolla XSE HB due to the fact it was available the little lady doesn't and won't drive a manual.
Hey that's still a nice looking ride next to nice looking ride.
 
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One thing I'm fairly certain of is that first-year GRC will have more issues than FL5. Toyota hasn't fed this much power through this drivetrain before in a mass production car, so I'm sure there will be some kinks to iron out. It always takes them a few tries.
 


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One thing I'm fairly certain of is that first-year GRC will have more issues than FL5. Toyota hasn't fed this much power through this drivetrain before in a mass production car, so I'm sure there will be some kinks to iron out. It always takes them a few tries.
Yeah but isn’t this powertrain literally pulled out of the GR Yaris?
 

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Yeah but isn’t this powertrain literally pulled out of the GR Yaris?
GRY pushes 268 hp/273 ftlbs. GRC goes up to 300 hp and some more torque I don't quite remember.

The Litchfield GRY pushes 300 hp, but that's obviously not a Toyota in-house tune. Bigger wheelbase in the GRC will also mean different shafts, even if all the diffs and hubs are the same. Won't really know exactly how much is different for a little while yet, but it's definitely different.

I recall a lot of reviewers complaining about GRY driving position as well. I haven't set foot in a Corolla yet, but hopefully it's better on the GRC. On the other hand, haven't heard any review complain about driving position in any 11th-gen Civic, so that's something else to compare.
 
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One thing I'm fairly certain of is that first-year GRC will have more issues than FL5. Toyota hasn't fed this much power through this drivetrain before in a mass production car, so I'm sure there will be some kinks to iron out. It always takes them a few tries.
One thing I'm fairly certain of is that first-year GRC will have more issues than FL5. Toyota hasn't fed this much power through this drivetrain before in a mass production car, so I'm sure there will be some kinks to iron out. It always takes them a few tries.
FL5 uses the same engine as the FK8 doesn't it? What ever issues FK8 had is probably fixed on the FL5 such as cooling. GR Yaris in Australia is making 500 HP on stock internals. I personally don't like the GR Yaris because of cheap medicore interior. İt looks good from the front the back but from the side it looks feminum.
 

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Personally I've got a deposit for both. I'd prefer the CTR because I'm a long time Honda fan, exterior looks better and interior for the new civic is borderline luxury. That being said I also expect the new CTR to be more expensive than the GRC, by how much is essentially what will make or break my choice.

GRC is a great competitor though. You got AWD, 2 LSDs, 300HP from a tiny 1.6L 3 cyclinder (for anyone who pays vehicle registration or other fees based on motor size this is hilariously great), relatively light weight for an AWD car (I think ~125lbs more than the FK8 CTR?), practicality of a hatchback, Toyota reliability, etc.

Can't wait to see the comparisons, and honestly sounds like you can't go wrong with either choice.
The GRC is based on a car that’s 5-6 years older than the 11th gen Civic, so that’s why it’s a little dated. I wonder how many model years they will have on this gen. Hopefully it’ll continue into next gen and it won’t have the gimped back seat and weird sloping roof that destroys trunk space.

I just want it for the incredible drivetrain. Nobody puts front and rear mechanical diffs in a car anymore. Kudos to Toyota. I think it’ll be more fun to drive than the Type R, although the Honda will probably be the better car overall.
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