The FL5 Dealer ADM Markup Thread

[mbaapk]

ADM increasing? Just for shits and giggle starting looking at R's again. Today, 5 different dealers contacted me and they all are asking 15K ADM.

That’s a starting point. A few lately going $5k over or $5k + minor accessories. It will come down. One dude started at $20k over and got well below $10k. Id say majority are $10k over starting and could be negotiated down in person.

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[Doublestack00]

Reggie Jackson Airport Honda has a used 2023 R boost blue with 7000 miles for 65K, lol.

Sales guy told me it was a steal!

 

[itsovr9k]

Reggie Jackson Airport Honda has a used 2023 R boost blue with 7000 miles for 65K, lol.

Sales guy told me it was a steal!

Given my experience with that dealer last year, sounds right

 

[car_go_vroom]

Reggie Jackson Airport Honda has a used 2023 R boost blue with 7000 miles for 65K, lol.

Sales guy told me it was a steal!

Sure is a steal… steal your money!

 

[CyberCTR]

Over a year later and ADM still is around. Eventually it will come down, it will, but people have been saying that for almost a year now.

I guess I am just surprised it’s still not easy to find one for single digit ADMs a year later.

 

[spectre186]

It’s been so bad I’m now considering a 2024 Mustang GT, haha.

 

[CTR]

Today was the 7 month anniversary of getting my FL5. I paid markup in the 4 figures and I received my car in January.

It's been amazing so far and while I would have preferred to not get it in the middle of winter I'm happy I made the purchase when I did. My state is just now getting their second wave of FL5's and they are still pretty rare in the NW. I wouldn't have been able to enjoy my car for this entire summer if I waited until now.

I've been saying this for over a year but unless Honda does something crazy like double the supply I don't expect this car to ever be readily available for MSRP (that's what the Integra Type S is for). I also anticipate that Honda will raise the MSRP to 46K+ for the 2024 model year. Make the best deal you can and just be happy with making it happen.

 

[Doublestack00]

Over a year later and ADM still is around. Eventually it will come down, it will, but people have been saying that for almost a year now.

I guess I am just surprised it’s still not easy to find one for single digit ADMs a year later.

I can and have found 5K at several dealers.

I bought a 6 speed Integra to get me by until prices settled, but now after talking with 50+ dealers I'm done.

After 24 years I'm considering leaving the Honda/Acura brand all together.

 

[AspecR]

Anyone want a Boost Blue FL5? I've got one at 5k over(includes a 10 year/120k mile powertrain warranty). Expected to arrive around the middle of next month.

 

[spectre186]

I can and have found 5K at several dealers.

I bought a 6 speed Integra to get me by until prices settled, but now after talking with 50+ dealers I'm done.

After 24 years I'm considering leaving the Honda/Acura brand all together.

I hear you. I was dead set on a CTR. Been getting jerked around by dealers. I’m tired of their crap. Its pushing me to just keep my 2016 civic and buy a 2024 Mustang GT for 2500 below MSRP.

 

[Doublestack00]

I hear you. I was dead set on a CTR. Been getting jerked around by dealers. I’m tired of their crap. Its pushing me to just keep my 2016 civic and buy a 2024 Mustang GT for 2500 below MSRP.

I've got a really good private party offer on my Integra, I'm thinking about letting it go.

Got 2 more dealers I'm waiting to hear back from, if nothing with them I'm done.

I all most bought a Model 3 Performance instead of the Integra, now I wish I would have.

 

[CyberCTR]

I think part of my surprise is that the CTR is supposed to be somewhat of an attainable enthusiast car, but at this MSRP with the ADMs mainly 5k+ it kind of takes it out of that category. Yet they’re still tough to find for the 5K-7K ADM or below.

 

[mbaapk]

Its actually pretty tame considering the 20% inflation over the last few years.

 

[Doublestack00]

I think part of my surprise is that the CTR is supposed to be somewhat of an attainable enthusiast car, but at this MSRP with the ADMs mainly 5k+ it kind of takes it out of that category. Yet they’re still tough to find for the 5K-7K ADM or below.

Yeah, any beyond 50K I am buying something else.

It doesn't help that all most every dealer is all about the maximum dollar they can squeeze from you vs earning a customer that will keep buying from them for years.

I drove 4 hours (2 each way) to see one, the sales guy said they were willing to negotiate. Once I got there they did drop down to 4K ADM but had added thousands in BS accessories like $750 wheel locks etc and low balled my trade. I basically said thanks for wasting my fucking time and walked out.

Why not tell me that on the phone instead of wasting half my day and all most a tank of gas.

My local dealer who between myself, my dad and my sister have bought 10 cars from them. They would not budge at all and even tried to pull the same BS as above. They have lost the business of my entire family.

It's a free market, charge what you want to charge but do not convince me to drive all the way to your dealership with some BS story and then change the price or go way up.

I had nearly the same results when trying to buy an Si or Sport Touring hatch manual earlier this year, that is how I ended up with the Integra which now I regret. My local dealer wanted a 5K ADM on the white Sport Touring manual. The sales guy said "hey man, they are rare. We have the only white manual on the east coast". While he was right about the inventory, its regular Civic, not even an Si.

It's honestly kind of ruined the whole car scene all together for me. My Integra is a good car, but I've got such a bad taste in my mouth from the brand I am about ready to just dump it.

 

[mbaapk]

Yeah, any beyond 50K I am buying something else.

It doesn't help that all most every dealer is all about the maximum dollar they can squeeze from you vs earning a customer that will keep buying from them for years.

I drove 4 hours (2 each way) to see one, the sales guy said they were willing to negotiate. Once I got there they did drop down to 4K ADM but had added thousands in BS accessories like $750 wheel locks etc and low balled my trade. I basically said thanks for wasting my fucking time and walked out.

Why not tell me that on the phone instead of wasting half my day and all most a tank of gas.

My local dealer who between myself, my dad and my sister have bought 10 cars from them. They would not budge at all and even tried to pull the same BS as above. They have lost the business of my entire family.

It's a free market, charge what you want to charge but do not convince me to drive all the way to your dealership with some BS story and then change the price or go way up.

I had nearly the same results when trying to buy an Si or Sport Touring hatch manual earlier this year, that is how I ended up with the Integra which now I regret. My local dealer wanted a 5K ADM on the white Sport Touring manual. The sales guy said "hey man, they are rare. We have the only white manual on the east coast". While he was right about the inventory, its regular Civic, not even an Si.

It's honestly kind of ruined the whole car scene all together for me. My Integra is a good car, but I've got such a bad taste in my mouth from the brand I am about ready to just dump it.

I get it for sure. I called like 20 dealers on a ST and all were sold or had $5k mark ups until i found one in AZ. Flew down and drove it back. I remember Jeff Wyler Honda as being particularly aggressive.

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