Something not being talked about much

[tacthecat]

The N-line is more like the Si and still only manages a 6.5 - 6.7 (C/D est).

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[jtrader]

JR... go back and look at the early dynos from Hondata and others. The 2016 dynos. There were no manuals. All those early dynos were CVT. The 11th numbers are much lower on Hondata's dyno. They use the same one at Church's for all the tests.

All the aftermarket guys like TSP, PRL, 27Won etc. have said these new cars have potential but out of the box are less potent. 7.9 vs. 6.6 to 60 (CVT) doesn't lie.

These are the 10th gen 1.5 Hondata published CVT dyno numbers:

Hondata's 2022 published dyno for comparison:

Untuned (yellow), the difference is substantial. Tuned (green), things are closer but the 10th still is more potent.

TSP just published their numbers. 154/163 for the 11th 1.5 motor. It's clearly much less potent stock than the 10th.

Is this saying that the 10th gen non-si 1.5T was really producing 190hp & 190tq to the wheels? ? How do the Si numbers compare to this?

 

[jakdotdot]

Is this saying that the 10th gen non-si 1.5T was really producing 190hp & 190tq to the wheels? ? How do the Si numbers compare to this?

On the dyno that Hondata uses, yes. Although they dyno at Churches which is fairly optimistic dyno (minus 10+ percent or so for a more typical dynojet number).

As for the SI, it was around 205hp and 210TQ on that particular dyno iirc.

 

[cryptolime]

the driver can make a big difference in 0-60 times. especially in a 6MT.

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