New to CTR - impressions log. What do I need to know?

[Bandit_TypeR]

I would like to know too since I think I shifted a little too late today, first time, kinda scared, but the car didn't grind or even act different, it just bounced off redline when I didn't shift in time. Then when I did it again, it was fine.

There's a rev limiter to protect the engine. With that said, if you did a "money shift" by accident it would be bad for the transmission and other components of the drive train. For example, if you were downshifting from 5th and missed 4th and hit second, that would not be good.

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[Cueyo]

There's a rev limiter to protect the engine. With that said, if you did a "money shift" by accident it would be bad for the transmission and other components of the drive train. For example, if you were downshifting from 5th and missed 4th and hit second, that would not be good.

Then I hit the rev limit (luckily), haven't money shifted yet, the closest I came was the second day of driving the car when I went into neutral, braked and then accidentally shifted into second, but auto rev match handled that

 

[Bandit_TypeR]

Then I hit the rev limit (luckily), haven't money shifted yet, the closest I came was the second day of driving the car when I went into neutral, braked and then accidentally shifted into second, but auto rev match handled that

While accelerating hard, a lot of drivers hit the rev limiter. It's a weird sensation as the fuel cutoff kicks in, but otherwise shouldn't be a problem. The money shift is what you want to avoid.

 

[Torsion]

There's a rev limiter to protect the engine. With that said, if you did a "money shift" by accident it would be bad for the transmission and other components of the drive train. For example, if you were downshifting from 5th and missed 4th and hit second, that would not be good.

If you downshift a bit early, you can go over 7k and rev limiter won’t prevent that. So my question is, how much over 7k starts to damage the engine?

 

[jtlctr]

If you downshift a bit early, you can go over 7k and rev limiter won’t prevent that. So my question is, how much over 7k starts to damage the engine?

I think a few members here have had a mechanical over-rev over 8k with no apparent problem, aside from possible damage to underwear.

 

[Bandit_TypeR]

I think a few members here have had a mechanical over-rev over 8k with no apparent problem, aside from possible damage to underwear.

A brown shift.

 

[Nanook]

Oh one thing I forgot…
* Second gear grind. I’ve seen lots debate about it, but it’s a real thing.

Never had a problem in any manual I’ve ever driven until my FK8. I’d thought maybe it would be different in the FL5…but I’ve heard others say they’ve had it. 90% of the time, for me any way, it happens when I’m just dawdling. Not in any hurry, just relaxed and going through an intersection or something. I’ve had it once I got the car (750ish miles). It got worse on the FK8, and I reduced it by doing a clutch pedal play adjustment, but it eventually came back.

 

[zumbooruk]

It's there anything other than the sensors that need to be installed?

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[zumbooruk]

Oh one thing I forgot…
* Second gear grind. I’ve seen lots debate about it, but it’s a real thing.

Never had a problem in any manual I’ve ever driven until my FK8. I’d thought maybe it would be different in the FL5…but I’ve heard others say they’ve had it. 90% of the time, for me any way, it happens when I’m just dawdling. Not in any hurry, just relaxed and going through an intersection or something. I’ve had it once I got the car (750ish miles). It got worse on the FK8, and I reduced it by doing a clutch pedal play adjustment, but it eventually came back.

Had it in my ‘07 FA5 Si

Even after I replaced clutch master cylinder with a modified version that removed the delay and I also adjusted the clutch pedal to disengage a bit higher

but only at near redline shifts

Still braking in, driving the FL5 gently and did not experience any issues

FL5 clutch is lighter and smoother than FA5

 

[Gansan]

- I don't find +R to be as stiff as some people say. For spirited driving, I'm mostly putting the car in +R. When the roads are particularly bad, I put the car in Individual, where I've put everything in the most aggressive setting other than suspension in sport or comfort and steering in sport.

The dampers are dynamic, adjusting many times per second according to accelerometers and wheel travel sensors. So +R is not that stiff on the street. On track, it seems to be calibrated for F1-smooth surfaces, so it ratchets up the stiffness and that's when people start to complain it's too much on a bumpy track.

 

[Tougefl5]

I just got a new CTR last week and have already completed break in, with more than 600 miles on the car. I'm super impressed with the car and really enjoying it. Feels like a hot hatch designed by the Porsche GT division.

This is my first Honda, and my first Japanese car. All of my other cars have been German (Porsche, BMW, Merc/AMG) and a McLaren.

What are they key things I need to know about the CTR?

A few things I've observed so far:

- With the small gas tank and low gas mileage when driving the car spiritedly, the range is quite small. I've already been to the gas station four times.

- With the PS 4S tires, the handling of the car is sensitive to tire pressure. At and beyond the high 30s psi, the handling starts to go off. Does the car have tire pressure monitors which give the tire pressures?

- I don't find +R to be as stiff as some people say. For spirited driving, I'm mostly putting the car in +R. When the roads are particularly bad, I put the car in Individual, where I've put everything in the most aggressive setting other than suspension in sport or comfort and steering in sport.

- The car feels quite light - because it is!

- The car is quite fast, almost too fast for public roads. Almost ...

- Like everyone says, the seats and shifter are really good. I also like the interior, feels pretty premium to me.

- I have a suspicion that Honda doesn't make a profit on this car. At $47k, it seems underpriced considering the level of engineering and performance.

The car is going to tell you everything you need to know. You may love everything about it stock. You might also find out what you want to change because of the use case of your choice.

 

[mparra11]

Great to hear you’re enjoying the car it is an awesome car.

* Potholes will be the bane of your existence.
* You think the tank is small now, wait until you take it in the track and you’re averaging 7-8mpg!
* The shift knob in the summer will cook your hand.
* You will get honked at and have many thumbs up while driving
* You will be egged on to race…multiple times
* Sound deadening is a cheap easy fix to improve your stereo
* These forums are the greatest place in the world for information

What are people doing for sound deadening? I am wanting to improve my audio

 

[TheFactor]

Know that the honeymoon will never end

 

[Torsion]

Know that the honeymoon will never end

How many miles on your car?

 

[Torsion]

I might as well make this an impressions thread also, and have changed the title accordingly.

My experience with cars over the past decade is mostly with Porsches (including several GT cars), and I've done about 250 track days.

I'm in my late 50s, which I imagine is on the older end for a CTR owner, but what can I say? - I like cars, and I like the CTR in particular!

I'm now at 736 miles on the car. I took it to work today, and wound up taking a 30-mile detour coming home because the car is so much fun to drive. It really feels to me a lot like a hot hatch designed by the Porsche GT division, and in particular the dynamics and brake feel most resemble the 992 GT3.

Despite being 'only' 315 hp max, from 0 to ~5k rpm, the torque and therefore hp are actually more than a 718 Boxster GTS 4.0 or a GT4 RS, so the CTR feels punchier than those cars up to 5k, and the Porsches really need to be wrung out to feel faster, which often isn't feasible on public roads. So the CTR feels comparable to a 400-500 hp NA car on the road (on the track, the Porsches will feel much more powerful). The engine seems happiest at mid revs, so that's where I usually keep it and I haven't run it out to redline much even after completing break in (and I hate the feeling of bouncing off the rev limiter).

The gearing of the CTR feels fairly short and tightly spaced, so I find myself in 6th gear at highway cruising speeds, but the car still has decent acceleration in 6th gear.

I know some people have used the damping algorithms of the Integra Type S on the CTR, but I like the damping of the CTR the way it is. It's reasonably comfortable in comfort mode, and I like the body control in +R mode. Yes, the car does tend to bounce on some bumpy roads, but it doesn't really lose grip or traction, and I actually find the bouncing kind of entertaining.

Overall, with the PS4S tires, the grip level is high, and feels just as high as some other cars I've run with PS4S tires.

I find that the car really wants trailbraking to turn in, and I'm learning to trust that the back of the car will hold even with substantial trailbraking. Seems that the car needs to be near to the limit or thrown in to get the back of the car to move. This is unlike the Elantra N, which likes to wag its tail more (I love the Elantra N, and driving my friend's for a week is what made me explore getting a FWD car).

I really like the shifter feel, it seems as good as, or better than, every other manual car I've driven. I've been letting it auto-blip, but will eventually try turning that off and heel-toeing it.

The tech in the car is good, in some ways better than Porsches.

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