RUNN1N
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I ordered a DE5 ADS unit, but only because I can’t help but want all of the things… I cancelled after waiting about 4 months. Honestly, the FL5 stiffness is fine as-is.
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I actually like R+ on normal to smooth roads for moderate periods of time. I feel more connected with the car for some weird reason.I have had more issues on the street than at the track. Some bumpy roads are just brutal in R+. But I just go with it and it really does not bother me. Most of the time I’m in individual mode anyway.
This right here ^. I don't have an FL5, I have a DE5, and one of the primary reasons for that is the stupid suspension. It is not a Porsche GT product, it is a 4-door Civic, I don't know where this thought of "race car stiff good" comes from. People validating their $5-20k markups they paid because it's "special"?Agree. Definitely not a track car. It's a misnomer for sure but people are running with it.
I'm assuming you've never driven the FL5 if you thinks unbearable. I also think a lot of the "it's too stiff" is overblown. I wouldn't even have noticed if it wasn't for all the complaining on this forum.This right here ^. I don't have an FL5, I have a DE5, and one of the primary reasons for that is the stupid suspension. It is not a Porsche GT product, it is a 4-door Civic, I don't know where this thought of "race car stiff good" comes from. People validating their $5-20k markups they paid because it's "special"?
What I can directly relate to though is Audi did something similar with the B9 RS5, which I have owned. It is hilariously overdamped in its firmest setting to the point where it is 100% useless and will actively piss you off. The FL5 seems WORSE because at least in the RS5 as long as you stayed away from the firmest setting the suspension was great- watching literally any YouTube review of the FL5 it is immediately clear that the driver is put through a vortex of pain in ANY setting on a canyon road. But even then, why have an adaptive damper if you can't use it in all settings? It's a nonsensical decision from the manufacturer and shouldn't be rewarded even with a sense of "it's fine" from owners.
Asking this question on this board is also a fool's errand. Too much confirmation bias on here. Search your heart. You already know the answer. lol.
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Don't make me hop on integraforums.com and start talking s$%t about your seats.This right here ^. I don't have an FL5, I have a DE5, and one of the primary reasons for that is the stupid suspension. It is not a Porsche GT product, it is a 4-door Civic, I don't know where this thought of "race car stiff good" comes from. People validating their $5-20k markups they paid because it's "special"?
What I can directly relate to though is Audi did something similar with the B9 RS5, which I have owned. It is hilariously overdamped in its firmest setting to the point where it is 100% useless and will actively piss you off. The FL5 seems WORSE because at least in the RS5 as long as you stayed away from the firmest setting the suspension was great- watching literally any YouTube review of the FL5 it is immediately clear that the driver is put through a vortex of pain in ANY setting on a canyon road. But even then, why have an adaptive damper if you can't use it in all settings? It's a nonsensical decision from the manufacturer and shouldn't be rewarded even with a sense of "it's fine" from owners.
Asking this question on this board is also a fool's errand. Too much confirmation bias on here. Search your heart. You already know the answer. lol.
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Dude lighten up, it was clearly hyperbole. The fact I have to explain that is sad, honestly.A "vortex of pain"?
Ummm...no. Let's not go overboard here. An overabundance of vertical oscillations? Yes. Pain? No. It's also not true that "any canyon road" triggers the bounciness in any mode. It needs to be a bumpy road, and you need to be in Sport or +R. The road has to be extremely rough to make Comfort excessively bouncy.
Even then, there is never any pain. Not even close.
On the flip side, there are plenty of canyon roads on which the FL5 is an absolute joy to drive. They aren't all rough and bumpy. There are some smooth roads too, you know.
Seriously, just pay attention to any review. It's pretty funny actually the amount these dudes get shaken up. I've posted enough examples of this, if you don't care to validate my assessment that's fine. Meanwhile, enjoy replacing your dental fillings.Coming from dailying FK8 for 75k miles, its definitely noticeable...
Its also noticeable just by watching most of the review and noting how much the driver bounce around...
I welcome this assessment, because I mostly agree. I'm looking to replace my seats with Bride or Recaro at some point. I suppose it's a fair comparison to the CTR suspension, some people don't mind the seats, some people swear they hate them. I don't hate them at all, in fact I think they're actually very comfortable for their intended purpose and look nice- but I won't argue they could be better for track use, so I'll likely replace them.Don't make me hop on integraforums.com and start talking s$%t about your seats.