FL5 Black edition

[J_D]

If MY25 is the last year, than my Rallye Red will be rarer than an LE FK8.

On the other hand, it will likely hurt/limit the aftermarket since you would potentially have something like only 9-10k units sold in the US.

Doesn't stop them for the Supra!

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[JTypeR]

It has been repeated a few times and the data proves that this will be a 3-year production car. No idea why people can't believe that.


A massive Canadian dealer 3 years ago said it would be a 3-year run with 180 coming in each year here in Canada. What happened for the last 2 years? 180 cars came in every year. Plus even the 911 is going hybrid due to EU and JDM regulation in 2026. Plus with noise reg and NA getting the TYPE S it really makes no sense for Honda to make the Type R in Japan and ship to NA. Let alone if tariffs happen.

I do believe the Type S will live on for extra year as it is NA only and item such as the engine are made here.

 

[Robo7]

Let me throw this Creative Trend blog post out there where it mentions that in Japan they took 25k reservations in the first 4 months they were offered starting in 2022. They expect it to take until early 2026 to clear those existing orders. Honda has supposedly also begun hinting that they will resume taking orders in Japan in 2025 as the book of existing orders gets closer to being fulfilled. If true this is not a 3 year production car and could run through 2026 or later.

 

[JTypeR]

For the EU regulation, it seems clear wont is not possible for a 2026 Year:

223 g/km of Co2 is the amount the Type R makes.

The regulations are looking to have it below 100g.

 

[Robo7]

For the EU regulation, it seems clear wont is not possible for a 2026 Year:

223 g/km of Co2 is the amount the Type R makes.

The regulations are looking to have it below 100g.

I believe that target is a fleet target so is an average of all cars Honda will sell. FL5 makes 186 g/km which will likely be offset by all the hybrid and EV models they sell in much higher volumes than the FL5. I think we still have at least another model year or two before the end of this car but who knows?

 

[sfedai0]

I believe that target is a fleet target so is an average of all cars Honda will sell. FL5 makes 186 g/km which will likely be offset by all the hybrid and EV models they sell in much higher volumes than the FL5. I think we still have at least another model year or two before the end of this car but who knows?

I think this is exactly why Honda got rid of the 1.5t trims and replaced it with the hybrids. Im willing to bet there will be a '26.

 

[Lamotrigine]

Let me throw this Creative Trend blog post out there where it mentions that in Japan they took 25k reservations in the first 4 months they were offered starting in 2022. They expect it to take until early 2026 to clear those existing orders. Honda has supposedly also begun hinting that they will resume taking orders in Japan in 2025 as the book of existing orders gets closer to being fulfilled. If true this is not a 3 year production car and could run through 2026 or later.

I think his new posts mentioned, the racing black edition is only for existing back-orders. And the dealer didn’t mention anything about resuming the order book in JDM. And he also mentioned the racing black editions get the interior panels from a different supplier so that Honda could fill the back orders asap. And this youtube channel also mentioned Honda plans to fulfill all back orders by the end of Japan Spring 2026. Which is in line with the change of regulation in July 2026

 

[Lamotrigine]

It has been repeated a few times and the data proves that this will be a 3-year production car. No idea why people can't believe that.


A massive Canadian dealer 3 years ago said it would be a 3-year run with 180 coming in each year here in Canada. What happened for the last 2 years? 180 cars came in every year. Plus even the 911 is going hybrid due to EU and JDM regulation in 2026. Plus with noise reg and NA getting the TYPE S it really makes no sense for Honda to make the Type R in Japan and ship to NA. Let alone if tariffs happen.

I do believe the Type S will live on for extra year as it is NA only and item such as the engine are made here.

Exactly. I am currently in a situation that I don't want to collect my FL5 until I move to my new house once it's done building in Mid-Fall 2025 (currently still in a shared house and don't want to drive new car lol, you know what I mean). I contacted him, he strongly recommended me to place a A$1K deposit to hold a CW stock under my name (only 3 2024 CW left in the whole country), and they will keep swapping with new stock until I decided to collect it and can choose the latest batch that comes out from the factory. He told me the new stock allocations always get sold out very quickly, and for now he could only see new allocations til the end of 2025 and nothing further. Smell very fishy. After the call, I transferred the cash to him in one second lol

 

[Robo7]

I think his new posts mentioned, the racing black edition is only for existing back-orders. And the dealer didn’t mention anything about resuming the order book in JDM. And he also mentioned the racing black editions get the interior panels from a different supplier so that Honda could fill the back orders asap. And this youtube channel also mentioned Honda plans to fulfill all back orders by the end of Japan Spring 2026. Which is in line with the change of regulation in July 2026

Wouldn’t this still suggest they will have a 2026 model year? It would be unusual to be selling new 2025 models still coming off the line in 2026 to fulfill those back orders in Spring ‘26. To me still sounds like we will get at least one more model year for this to be true. I don’t really care either way as I already have my FL5, but this is the only way these rumors make sense to me.

 

[TheCanadian]

Maybe the 2026 Japan regulations affect MY2026 cars too?

 

[arcticdc5]

It has been repeated a few times and the data proves that this will be a 3-year production car. No idea why people can't believe that.


A massive Canadian dealer 3 years ago said it would be a 3-year run with 180 coming in each year here in Canada. What happened for the last 2 years? 180 cars came in every year. Plus even the 911 is going hybrid due to EU and JDM regulation in 2026. Plus with noise reg and NA getting the TYPE S it really makes no sense for Honda to make the Type R in Japan and ship to NA. Let alone if tariffs happen.

I do believe the Type S will live on for extra year as it is NA only and item such as the engine are made here.

Dealers can claim all they want with whatever BS they spew out just to create a sense of urgency with customers. With the amount of money for R&D, engineering, marketing and production line tooling - the FL5 is here to stay within production for as long as the LX/Sport/Sport Touring 11th gen Civics stays in production. 10th Gen Civics ran from 2015-2022 (8 year run), so expect the FL5 and 11th gen Civics to remain in production until 2029, perhaps even 2028.

 

[onepointsix]

10th Gen Civics ran from 2015-2022 (8 year run)

10th Gen was 2016-2021, a 6 year run.

While I agree that dealerships can be full of shit, that Canadian dealership is not regarding the number of FL5 we were projected to get. The 3 year run might only pertain to the Canadian market, we don't know, but signs point to the numbers and dates being correct.

I suspect that there's going to a delay in the next Type R, like the delay between the FD2 and FK2 (3 year hiatus in that case) as they work out what they want to do next. There's a lot of questions as to how they're going to continue the Type R; Hybrid is likely but will it be manual? Will it continue to be FWD?

I'm getting off topic, but I believe it will be MY25, with the possibility of a special model (LE?) in MY26.

 

[arcticdc5]

10th Gen was 2016-2021, a 6 year run.

While I agree that dealerships can be full of shit, that Canadian dealership is not regarding the number of FL5 we were projected to get. The 3 year run might only pertain to the Canadian market, we don't know, but signs point to the numbers and dates being correct.

I suspect that there's going to a delay in the next Type R, like the delay between the FD2 and FK2 (3 year hiatus in that case) as they work out what they want to do next. There's a lot of questions as to how they're going to continue the Type R; Hybrid is likely but will it be manual? Will it continue to be FWD?

I'm getting off topic, but I believe it will be MY25, with the possibility of a special model (LE?) in MY26.

Until I see an LE FL5 become available with the Phoenix Yellow paint, then I'll know its on the way out. This black edition with black seats, carpet and other misc. tidbits will not be a sendoff model. The FL5 will follow in the FK8 LE's footsteps for when production is coming to an end.

 

[JTypeR]

Dealers can claim all they want with whatever BS they spew out just to create a sense of urgency with customers. With the amount of money for R&D, engineering, marketing and production line tooling - the FL5 is here to stay within production for as long as the LX/Sport/Sport Touring 11th gen Civics stays in production. 10th Gen Civics ran from 2015-2022 (8 year run), so expect the FL5 and 11th gen Civics to remain in production until 2029, perhaps even 2028.

Sure dealers can lie but can Honda break the law? The type R is an international product that won't meet EU regulations and seems like Japanese regulations. Like you can search for the new reg and the current Type R engine exhaust pollution amount, no way the same engine coming back. There is a reason a type S was made lol. Easier to kill off the Type R and keep the Type S going for NA. Plus things like the prelude are coming back. I suspect at the very most a hybrid version coming.

 

[JTypeR]

I think if they do a MY26, it'll just be the LE model. It'll be strange though because it won't be a model available in Japan potentially. Was the LE offered in Japan?

I am guessing they will do a type S LE outside of Japan and maybe rush something for their domestic market. This was shown and I can't imagine them doing more for the car and the last run version. This would be the peak release honda could do.

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